Comments on: Jam on the net with Jamlink http://www.SynthGear.com/2009/audio-gear/jamlink-internet-jam/ Synthesizers, electronic music and gear reviews Sun, 18 Sep 2011 00:11:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2 By: CaptainCrunch http://www.SynthGear.com/2009/audio-gear/jamlink-internet-jam/comment-page-1/#comment-1241 CaptainCrunch Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:48:20 +0000 http://www.SynthGear.com/?p=2059#comment-1241 Irfon...they just posted a demo video on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svN4ZmrR7vc Irfon…they just posted a demo video on Youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svN4ZmrR7vc

]]> By: David Willyard http://www.SynthGear.com/2009/audio-gear/jamlink-internet-jam/comment-page-1/#comment-1093 David Willyard Tue, 01 Dec 2009 08:55:07 +0000 http://www.SynthGear.com/?p=2059#comment-1093 It is actually useful in a variety of different situations. There are many existing bands using the jamLinks to rehearse and fine tune their music in between in-person rehearsals. Songwriting teams are using them to work on new material, even well beyond the approximate 500 mile range for in-the-room jamming. There are also some producers using them to listen in remotely during live tracking and playback from remote locations. They also make the most high-fidelity, lowest latency telephones you have ever heard. MusicianLink will also help you find higher speed Internet service if it is available in your area. Many of the cable providers are offering 16Mbps down/2Mbps up and are planning to roll out higher capacity services in 2010. The Verizon FiOS service is really nice if you can get it, and many dsl providers will be rolling out faster services in 2010 as well. We'll be putting up some more videos of the jamLinks in action very soon at musicianlink.com. It is actually useful in a variety of different situations. There are many existing bands using the jamLinks to rehearse and fine tune their music in between in-person rehearsals. Songwriting teams are using them to work on new material, even well beyond the approximate 500 mile range for in-the-room jamming. There are also some producers using them to listen in remotely during live tracking and playback from remote locations. They also make the most high-fidelity, lowest latency telephones you have ever heard.

MusicianLink will also help you find higher speed Internet service if it is available in your area. Many of the cable providers are offering 16Mbps down/2Mbps up and are planning to roll out higher capacity services in 2010. The Verizon FiOS service is really nice if you can get it, and many dsl providers will be rolling out faster services in 2010 as well.

We’ll be putting up some more videos of the jamLinks in action very soon at musicianlink.com.

]]> By: Irfon-Kim Ahmad http://www.SynthGear.com/2009/audio-gear/jamlink-internet-jam/comment-page-1/#comment-978 Irfon-Kim Ahmad Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:41:17 +0000 http://www.SynthGear.com/?p=2059#comment-978 Okay to be fair, if you read their FAQ (which I hope anybody considering it will do), they do address some of my concerns by basically admitting that they're a problem. They say that Jamlink only works if the other person you're jamming with is within 500 miles maximum (to keep the latency down) and also that most ISPs do not provide enough bandwidth for Jamlink to work. They say that you can get a list of ISPs that offer sufficient bandwidth from them. So it's certainly still useful, but maybe not quite as much as their video makes you think it would be. It's probably most useful to members of a band who all live in the same city or large metropolitan area but who would find all trucking their stuff out to one member's house or a rehearsal space to jam difficult. I can see it being really great foryoung people, students or people without a car, or for spontaneous jamming without having to go through a lot of travel and setup. But it's not going to allow, say, me in Toronto to jam with my friend in Seattle. And while there are no subscription fees above the initial cost, the cost of the required internet service is likely to be more than the cost of a regular high-speed DSL or Cable service, and as such have to be factored in to a purchase decision. Okay to be fair, if you read their FAQ (which I hope anybody considering it will do), they do address some of my concerns by basically admitting that they’re a problem. They say that Jamlink only works if the other person you’re jamming with is within 500 miles maximum (to keep the latency down) and also that most ISPs do not provide enough bandwidth for Jamlink to work. They say that you can get a list of ISPs that offer sufficient bandwidth from them.

So it’s certainly still useful, but maybe not quite as much as their video makes you think it would be. It’s probably most useful to members of a band who all live in the same city or large metropolitan area but who would find all trucking their stuff out to one member’s house or a rehearsal space to jam difficult. I can see it being really great foryoung people, students or people without a car, or for spontaneous jamming without having to go through a lot of travel and setup. But it’s not going to allow, say, me in Toronto to jam with my friend in Seattle. And while there are no subscription fees above the initial cost, the cost of the required internet service is likely to be more than the cost of a regular high-speed DSL or Cable service, and as such have to be factored in to a purchase decision.

]]> By: Irfon-Kim Ahmad http://www.SynthGear.com/2009/audio-gear/jamlink-internet-jam/comment-page-1/#comment-977 Irfon-Kim Ahmad Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:36:10 +0000 http://www.SynthGear.com/?p=2059#comment-977 Each person (well, each location) participating in the jam session needs a separate device. Each person (well, each location) participating in the jam session needs a separate device.

]]> By: racy_rick http://www.SynthGear.com/2009/audio-gear/jamlink-internet-jam/comment-page-1/#comment-976 racy_rick Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:54:47 +0000 http://www.SynthGear.com/?p=2059#comment-976 I would love to see this in action. The video stopped loading for me after a few seconds. I wonder how this can work with only one device, because wouldn't you always need contact both ways? I would love to see this in action. The video stopped loading for me after a few seconds.

I wonder how this can work with only one device, because wouldn’t you always need contact both ways?

]]> By: Irfon-Kim Ahmad http://www.SynthGear.com/2009/audio-gear/jamlink-internet-jam/comment-page-1/#comment-964 Irfon-Kim Ahmad Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:10:09 +0000 http://www.SynthGear.com/?p=2059#comment-964 I'll believe it when I use one in action! Seriously, the latency introduced by your sound card, audio drivers, etc., are ridiculously tiny compared to the latency introduced by the net itself. For most people with decent audio interfaces, the latency is going to be a maximum of, what, 16ms? And then double that for decoding at the other end and you're getting, say, 32ms? Pinging Google right now, I get a latency of between 476ms at the shortest and 1001ms at the longest. An pings are incredibly small packets. Also, how many home users have the recommended 1000kbps upstream? Many high-speed internet providers for home users don't even offer plans that go that high, upstream. I’ll believe it when I use one in action!

Seriously, the latency introduced by your sound card, audio drivers, etc., are ridiculously tiny compared to the latency introduced by the net itself. For most people with decent audio interfaces, the latency is going to be a maximum of, what, 16ms? And then double that for decoding at the other end and you’re getting, say, 32ms? Pinging Google right now, I get a latency of between 476ms at the shortest and 1001ms at the longest. An pings are incredibly small packets.

Also, how many home users have the recommended 1000kbps upstream? Many high-speed internet providers for home users don’t even offer plans that go that high, upstream.

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